tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13297025.post1607162050923236790..comments2023-10-07T02:00:48.078-07:00Comments on Trans Group Blog: Transsexuals Not Covered In Hate Crimes Billhelen boydhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06979008474375552946noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13297025.post-79761733602620856772009-04-17T07:56:00.000-07:002009-04-17T07:56:00.000-07:00Marti, you say "if there's better language then, w...Marti, you say "if there's better language then, why not use it? There's NO reason not to." First, as I've attempted to demonstrate on your blog, the language in HR 1913 <I>isn't</I> necessarily better than the language used in ENDA. That language may make you more comfortable, but I don't believe that either the court's or the prosecutors charged with enforcing federal criminal law will see a Abbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06293238500720538822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13297025.post-13291758648043535482009-04-17T03:49:00.000-07:002009-04-17T03:49:00.000-07:00Helen, one of the bad things about posting to this...Helen, one of the bad things about posting to this blog is that I never get a notice when there are comments! <br /><br />@Abby, as I said at the original post, the preferred language is more comprehensive and I've shown examples how "gender" can be turned on its head (In Kansas for example, re Estate of Gardiner) and in many other places (especially title 7). As I said on Ethan St. Pierre's showMartihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11135098390389506633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13297025.post-35648254987157973842009-04-07T08:06:00.000-07:002009-04-07T08:06:00.000-07:00I second that thank you Abigal of course we cannot...I second that thank you Abigal of course we cannot be too careful about loop holes in the legal language - however at this juncture to see a "bad" trans bill is just unlikely - after all we have as Barney Frank said , and thanks to all the NCTE attorneys and others -we got a good fully inclusive bill. (now we have to get it passed and i do believe we will see it passed for reasons i won't go proudprogressivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05847907206540248082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13297025.post-45455921381116408922009-04-07T08:01:00.000-07:002009-04-07T08:01:00.000-07:00The discussion on the issues raised by this post i...The discussion on the issues raised by this post is continuing on Marti's site - http://www.transadvocate.com/transsexuals-not-covered-in-hate-crimes-bill.htm/. I urge those who are interested, and especially those who believe that Marti's arguments raise real ground for concern, to go there to follow that discussionAbbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06293238500720538822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13297025.post-11506120639417959322009-04-06T22:37:00.000-07:002009-04-06T22:37:00.000-07:00thank you so much for posting, Abigail.thank you so much for posting, Abigail.helen_boydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10449290480827158734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13297025.post-78361869119366229242009-04-06T22:12:00.000-07:002009-04-06T22:12:00.000-07:00Marti, I don’t have time to respond to this in det...Marti, I don’t have time to respond to this in detail, but do feel the need to correct the misimpression given by your reliance on my comment on the EQualityGiving blog to support your position.<BR/><BR/>I do NOT, in fact, think that the differences in the definitions of “gender identity” in the hate crimes bill and ENDA presents any danger that some segment of the transgender community will be Abbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06293238500720538822noreply@blogger.com